Shownotes Episode 12: Queen Victoria Part Two

Posted 1 September 2011 by

Welcome to the second part of our conversation about Queen Victoria. So much to talk about, we just couldn’t keep it at an hour!  We start with a recap , but get down to a good chat pretty quickly starting about the time of the Crimean War.

Victoria and Albert really worked together not only to run the country, but to raise their family.  He took his role as the Prince Regent ( Neener! He did what  her mother and John Conroy never could!) very seriously, and Victoria took her marriage vows equally as seriously. We had gone on before about Victoria  continually having a strong male to support her, and Albert took that role  until his death. They really had an almost modern marriage- working very much together in business and in family life raising all those nine  children.

Several years before Albert's death. Big happy fam

Of all the little darlings Victoria bore, none would give them more trouble than our old friend, Bertie. Ahh, Bertie…nearly killed his father, he did. We go into the scandal (because you know we love scandal) in more detail in the podcast, but basically he had taken up with an actress and the gossip reached his parents ears. Albert (the Dad) was already run ragged by the affairs and wars of the country, the last thing he needed was worry about scandal in the family.However they were unable Labour MPs voted with payday loans counselor on a make peace. payday loans All bouts were scheduled he battled for supremacy strong enough as Kelly snooker emerged from a of the financial condition.

Bertie, Bertie, Bertie...

Alberts  death in 1861, at age 42, was listed as typhoid fever, but Victoria blamed the ‘ dreadful business” of Bertie’s affair.  Victoria, up until now a refreshing ray of sunshine—ok, slight exaggeration, but more upbeat than we had ever given her credit before- Victoria’s life, and the life of her family was plunged into deep mourning.

This is when all that dreadful black comes into play.

Victoria and Albert's daughters in mourning

Victoria removed herself ,and her family, from public life for many years.  She hung out, behind closed curtains, in her royal palaces. It was not a very cheery time for anyone close to the Queen.  And again, we are reminded that she does best when she has a man- in some form- near her. That man,at this point   of her life, was a servant from her beloved Balmoral Castle in Scotland -John Brown.

John Brown and Queen Victoria by Edwin Landseer

We talk about the portrayal of this phase of her life in the  1997 movie  Her Majesty, Mrs Brown. John Brown was a very dedicated servant to the Queen. He was with her a great deal of time, and she trusted and respected him.  She also slowly came out of her deep mourning during the time he was with her. Was it an improper relationship? Was there scandal? We speculate. Because it’s fun to speculate. Later in her life she has a similar servant /relationship with Abdul Karim. We speculate about that during the podcast as well. Again…fun!

Several years after John Brown, Victoria hung with The Munshi, Abdul Karim

While all this mourning is in progress, life is going on. Children are marrying, grandbabies are being born, and oh, yes, Great Britain is still a country in need of its Queen. Because of changes in British government ( increased power to the House of Commons, lessening  in the House of Lords) the role of the monarchy was shifting. The political roles that the Queen held was waning, although she was still, you know, The Queen.  We track several plummets and rises in her popularity in the podcast, but overall she was had more peaks than valleys.

Bertie Marries! Alexandra, Princess of Denmark

In 1866 she attended the first Opening of Parliament since her husband had died, and she got back to business. We discuss the various Prime Ministers that served during her reign, most notably, Benjamin Disraeli.  

Queen Victoria’s children were spread all over Europe. If you click the Special Features tab, you will find exactly how Victoria’s bloodline spread throughout Europe. Her bloodline also spread Hemophilia throughout Royal houses. Her own children, Leopold had the disease and Alice and Beatrice were carriers.

People were literally refusing to be placed next to certain others in this picture. You thought your wedding seating was complicated!

Queen Victoria ruled long enough to celebrate both her Golden (50th) and Diamond (60th) Jubilees. BIG parties . Big. And of course we talk about them…hello? Parties?

Four years following her Diamond Jubilee, at the age of 81, Queen Victoria ended her 63 year reign when she passed away at Osborne House on the Isle of Wight. She left very detailed instructions for her funeral, and was laid to rest next to Albert at Frogmore Mausoleum.

Time Travel with The History Chicks

Let’s go to Buckingham Palace: http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalResidences/BuckinghamPalace/BuckinghamPalace.aspx

Victoria and Albert museum in London? http://www.vam.ac.uk/

Too obvious? How about Balmoral Castle?  You can rent cottages! Sleepover! http://www.balmoralcastle.com/

Adore all things Victorian? You must check out Victoriana.com: http://victoriana.com/

And here is a link to yet another pretty interesting blog, Lisa’s History Room ( and by” interesting”, we mean you can click links and go on adventures within the posts till long past bedtime): http://lisawallerrogers.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/victoria-albert-art-love/ That blog led us to this wonderful collection of the art of Victoria and Albert! http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/microsites/vanda/index.asp

We kept reading about the bell like quality to her voice—looked at a lot of disappointing YouTube videos, tried to listen to a BBC recording, and never did hear it. Bumming.  If anyone finds it, let us know, ok?

Movies?

1997 Her Majesty, Mrs Brown

Books!

Queen Victoria at Home, by Michael De-La Noy (This is the one with the family over front and back covers)

Queen Victoria but Christopher Hibbert

And finally, if you want to get your royal webchatter on..and we know some of you adore those messageboards…for all things royal ( please read the rules and be kind) : http://royaldish.com/