Episode 214: Nell Gwynn

Nell, circa 1675 by Peter Lely

First off, please know that this episode contains a very loud LITTLE EARS warning, so we do ask that adults preview it to decide if it’s appropriate for the kids in their life. Nell was a woman who grew up in poverty, learned how to charm people from a very young age, and found success in the culture in which she lived as an actress and a mistress to King Charles II of England. (There is a lot of sex and quotes have words in them that we don’t ordinarily use but it’s impossible to tell her story without these elements.)

Nell’s early history is a little fuzzy, she was most likely born on February 2, 1650, in Oxford, England. She was named Eleanor after her mother, but everyone called her “Nell.” She was definitely the second daughter of Eleanor Gwynn, and her father was Thomas Gwynn, perhaps a military man who fought for the King on the losing side of a war that ended with that king’s head…off, and his son and heir, Charles, on the run and in exile. There are a couple of theories as to who, exactly, this Thomas was but what really matters is that he was out of the picture, imprisoned, and dead when Nell was a tiny child.

Nell grew up in London, England, during a time of Puritanical rule but her community in the aptly named, Coal Yard Alley, was a seedy part of town where people didn’t care much for the “NO” laws. Nell’s school wasn’t academic- it was survival; it was street smarts and reading people. She was very good at her lessons.

King Charles II by John Michael Wright circa 1663

When she was 10, King Charles II came back into power, Hello, Restoration Era!  She worked her way from selling oysters to selling oranges at the newly opened theaters, and after women were allowed on stage (thanks, King Charles!) she stepped into the life of an actress…a very popular actress. Very.

King Charles II, like everyone who saw her, was drawn to and mesmerized by Nell. Yes, he was married and very devoted to his wife, and yes he had many other mistresses in his lifetime. Nell possessed qualities that the other women in Charles’ life didn’t, as a diarist of the time (Samuel Pepys) described her she was, “pretty and witty.” She gave birth to two of Charles’ sons and, most importantly, was loyal to him and unapologetically herself, for the rest of her life.

Showing a little nipple was a visual indication that the woman was the mistress of a powerful man. 

Don’t get us wrong, she was human and made some really poor Mean Girl decisions along the way. She had tragedy and loss and life setbacks. For the most part, though, she was happy and made others happy, too, with a big, good-natured, and playful personality.

Nell only outlived Charles by only two years and was survived by only one of her sons. She died on November 14, 1687, at the age of 37.

We took a tour via Google and lo! The modern-day location of the tavern/bawdy house where Nell’s Mom worked (and they lived..maybe, like we said, details are a bit fuzzy.) Sugar Sin, indeed.

Time Travel With The History Chicks

Books!

The big’un by Charles Beauclerk
Derek Parker
Sarah-Beth Watkins
by Bryan Beven
(The one that Beckett’s husband had given her for Christmas) by Eleanor Herman
by HRH Princess Michael of Kent
by Bee Wilson
by Ian Mortimer (this whole series is excellent)

To read the…colorful diary of Samuel Pepys (as well as other things related to the man) online: Diary of Samuel Pepys

Web!

Oliver Cromwell, hero or villain? (We don’t go into it too much in this episode, it’s not called History Dudes)

Here’s a list of the Nell statues in London (as well as other images of things we mentioned, it’s a good article) in THE LONDONIST

Death of King Charles I

History of female actors at the theeeaaater. First Actresses by Deborah Friedell

Moving Pictures!

Frock Flicks (also a podcast) has a rundown of all the Nell Gwynn movies here: Frock Flicks

And this is NOTHING like Susan’s version. She’s keeping her day job to the delight of theater goers everywhere.

Break music: Orange Sphere, by Future Former; End song: My Town by the Bell Hours used with permission from ilicense music

BONUS! A Conversation with Liza Powel O’Brien

Our new podcast girlfriend and host of Significant Others Podcast, Liza Powel O’Brien (Conan is her husband) (Yes, that Conan O’Brien.)

This isn’t a new thing for us, we just thought that it would be fun to have a conversation with another female history podcaster, and Liza graciously accepted. It’s not an interview, we don’t do those, it’s more like listening to the conversation at the next table in a coffee shop. We talk podcasting and interests and…well, just give a listen.

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Episode 211: Mary Edwards Walker

Doctor Walker, Post Civil War, admire her Medal of Honor and ponder why she is STILL THE ONLY WOMAN TO RECIEVE IT! cc wikicommons
Doctor Walker’s very practical but oft-ridiculed outfit. Circa 1876 wikicommons
As she aged, Dr. Walker was even more stylish than ever before circa 1911 wikicommons

 

Time Travel With The History Chicks

Books!

Mercedes Gref (maybe a movie? It would be awesome!)
Ammar Habib
Theresa Kaminsi
A kids picture book by Cheryl Harness and Carlo Molinari
Tracy Dawson

Web!

South Dakota, the Divorce Capital for Gilded Age Women? Apparently so! Article in Watertown Public Opinion

A Cavalcade of America has A LOT of short radio plays including one on Dr. Mary Walker (which is easier to find on YouTube:)

There are a lot of articles on Reform Dress out there, here’s just one from Freethought Trail, and an article on her statue in Oswego, New York from the same site.

The National Women’s Hall of Fame! It’s a place! Go check it out!


Break Music: Brave, by Crystal Kavoch
End Music: Heavy Time by Monte Casino

Episode 209: Elizabeth Chudleigh

Whether she’s styled as Lady Elizabeth Chudleigh or Countess of Bristol or Duchess of Kingston, she should be remembered as a woman who, right or wrong, made her own choices in her world during a time when women had very few options. She dealt with all that life threw her way by being witty and charming and aware of the social norms of the day. Her story is a lesson in dealing with the consequences of one fateful decision.

Elizabeth’s trial!

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Time Travel With The History Chicks

Books!

Catherine Ostler
Claire Gervat
Charles E. Pierce (link will take you to Amazon where it’s for sale.)

Web!

Want to learn more about the Royal Hospital at Chelsea (or visit if Covid ever goes away)? It’s where the Chelsea Flower Show is held each year! Royal Hospital

Kingston House, formerly Chudleigh House, pretty swanky love nest!

Moving Pictures!

Ahhhh! This is a wide-open field and there are several story arcs in here to play with, Dear Movie Producer!

Episode 208: London Field Trip Report

Of course, we had to pose in front of Highclere Castle! (Yes, that’s “Downton Abbey.”)

Once upon a time a couple of chicks and a group tour expert thought it would be fun to plan a tour around our former subjects… finally, three years, four reschedules,  56 people went on that eight-day trip. These are their stories. (And historical trivia, travel and book recommendations, societal observations, and even a lesson in gas exchange…there’s a lot to learn in this one.)

Our Poundland haul!

Some finds at Blenheim Palace:

Gladys Deacon sphynx at Blenheim Palace
Winston Churchill’s curls from his first big boy haircut
Nobody puts Wallis in the corner!

 

 

TIME TRAVEL WITH THE HISTORY CHICKS TRAVELERS

The Superbloom at Tower of London was a favorite for A LOT of us

Head on over to our Instagram, The History Chicks Field Trips, for the motherlode of trip photos!

The history pub tour that Beckett and her dad took was through Liquid History Tours; the Jack the Ripper tour Susan took was through RipperVision, her guide was Richard (although some Seagulls took the tour with a different guide from the same company and loved it just as much.)

Susan and our Jack The Ripper Tour guide, Richard! (He said he was going to look scary for this, he was a perfectly charming gentleman!)

Our tea etiquette lesson was delightfully presented by Eileen Donaghey at Fortnum and Mason where, you too, can stock up on Jubilee-themed tea and biscuits from wherever you are! 

Tea at Fortnum & Mason, Susan and Beckett’s table.

Beckett and her dad visited the Bate Collection of musical instruments at the University of Oxford.

Finding a pub in England is…not hard, but when we were in Oxford, this is where we enjoyed dinner and drinks (and more drinks): The Chequers. 

“Other” Susan: Learn more about Saint Frideswide, an Abbess at Christchurch Chapel in Oxford

Starr: The book that Starr nerded out to and gave her visit to Jane’s world added depth:

By Helena Kelly

Susie: The public art installation of giant corgis are dotted throughout Westminster (where we were staying so it was hard NOT to see one.) Here is a map of them, and the one that she referenced, Susan, represents Queen Elizabeth’s first corgi and the grandma of many of the ones she called for walkies in the Queen’s life. Funny story: this piece was created by the class of one of our Traveler’s daughters!

One of the many corgis! This one is named Susan who was Queen Elizabeth’s original corgi and the matriarch of the many corgis she’s had over the years.

June enjoyed her time at the Postal Museum!

Find yourself near Victoria Station on a Sunday evening and fancy a game of Trivia? Our Trivia Teams really enjoyed the Sunday evening game with Johnny the Fox at The Warwick!

The Superbloom music that Diana referenced was this, Music For Growing Flowers, by Erland Cooper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_35eEzViLk

If you’re excited to join us on another Field Trip, we would love to have you join us on our October Boston and Newport adventure! Click on over to Like Minds Travel for information, or if you are going to be in Boston and would like to join that trip’s Local’s Meet Up, find out more here!